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> Grrr!, Terror *almost* strikes again on U.S. soil!
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post Sep 24 2009, 09:58 PM
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in Downtown Dallas, even!!!

Thankfully, the FBI was able to make sure the bomb was not real, but OOF!! That was a LOT too close for comfort!
He got WAY too close to possibly succeeding, IMO...


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post Sep 25 2009, 12:26 AM
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confused1.gif Link to news article please? Nothing here....


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post Sep 25 2009, 06:33 AM
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post Sep 25 2009, 01:37 PM
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post Sep 25 2009, 02:55 PM
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What's the deal... this is getting too much, too often to be un linked. I think it is time to track down these ppl that are here illegally and send them back home. We also need to find a way to plug up the holes so they can't just sneek back in.


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post Sep 26 2009, 12:00 AM
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Hrm, and another in Illinois on the same day??? Linky


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post Sep 26 2009, 12:20 AM
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Interesting on the same day.
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post Oct 11 2009, 01:33 AM
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we all need to remember that terrorism is not something that is the sole property of illegal aliens or those who have emigrated here.

only remember what happened in oklahoma city (may their memories be eternal), or any place who have had men in white pointy hats holding secret meetings in the middle of the night, or small towns somewhere who have people with such hatred in their hearts as to string up young men on fenceposts and beat them to death, leaving them to die in the night.

terrorism is a product of hatred and intolerance towards others, no matter what the origin.

rooting out intolerance of others and the resulting hatred would go far to solving any terrorism problems.

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post Oct 11 2009, 04:14 AM
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clapping.gif Well said, Beh!!

Also, two similar things happening on the same day in a country as large as the US does not a conspiracy make.....

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I grew up in one of those "small towns" where the ignorance and intolerance displayed by some was appalling, and being too bright or having friends of another ethnicity were a quick way of making yourself a target... whistling.gif

But, along with the ignorance of some people, the other thing you'll often find is that many are simply "followers". Unwilling or unable to think for themselves, they will take anything some authority figure says as "truth", without questioning them or their motivations. I see this not only as a large scale problem as with the "organized" terrorists, but also with smaller groups that may include only a handful of individuals, lead by one or two people with some ax to grind. It takes only a few truly evil or throughly misguided people to spread this disease.

As a case in point, I actually went to school with one of the people involved in Oklahoma City. He was one of those I had trouble with, running with the larger group of bullies. He was never a leader, just a follower, none too bright, but I didn't sense any real "evil" there. Still, I could easily believe that someone could talk him into helping them, either with the right arguments or by not revealing their actual intent. (Remember, "none too bright...") As for knowing how to build the device used, this was a farming community, and a good many of us knew how do do it even if we hadn't seen it for ourselves. Common knowledge, despite what "the media" would have you believe. It was the cheapest and fastest way to create a pond, and it was just plain "cool."

I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle now, with too many people seeing this kind of violence as acceptable or even justified. And there are too many ways to rain down mass destruction to protect against them all. The only solution I see is to try to educate the disaffected ones being recruited to do these things, and to remove the criminals doing the recruiting... Perminantly!


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post Jan 31 2010, 02:59 PM
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Hi folks,
I haven't logged in here for a looooonnngg time. The lava pit used to be one of my favorite places here.

I see this terrorism discussion pop up everywhere. People all over the place try to draw a line between the radicals and the moderates. There is no line. In Islam, there are two houses. The house of Islam, and the house of War. If you are a muslim, you are in the house of Islam. If you are not a muslim, you are in the house of War. Islam is forever at war with all "unbelievers".
Essentially, if a muslim cannot convert you to Islam, he is required to either subjugate you or kill you. Islam requires its followers to overcome the government of the nation in which they reside, replace it with an Islamic government and institute sharia law. What westerners call radical Islam is nothing of the sort. This so called radicalism is simply ordinary and normal Islamic behavior. It is required of its followers. It will never go away. It will not stop. If the west is not ready to stand up against Islam and force it out, terrorism is here forever.


The owner of the website at this link has spent many years researching Islam, all of its writings, and has traveled to the middle east to interview terrorist leaders. He is an expert on Islam, and if anyone in the west values freedom, this website is required reading.

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post Jan 31 2010, 10:32 PM
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Similar things of that sort can be seen in just about all other religions too. Doesn't make it anymore right, but I'm tossing that one out there.
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post Jan 31 2010, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (Tomala @ Feb 1 2010, 03:32 AM) *
Similar things of that sort can be seen in just about all other religions too. Doesn't make it anymore right, but I'm tossing that one out there.


Perhaps, but members of other religions are not manufacturing terrorists by the thousands. You will never see a crowd of thirty thousand Sikhs, or Buddhists, or Christians, or Hindu's screaming "death to the west", or "death to America", while waving their machine guns in the air.


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post Feb 2 2010, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE (Darian @ Jan 31 2010, 11:49 PM) *
QUOTE (Tomala @ Feb 1 2010, 03:32 AM) *
Similar things of that sort can be seen in just about all other religions too. Doesn't make it anymore right, but I'm tossing that one out there.


Perhaps, but members of other religions are not manufacturing terrorists by the thousands. You will never see a crowd of thirty thousand Sikhs, or Buddhists, or Christians, or Hindu's screaming "death to the west", or "death to America", while waving their machine guns in the air.

Not "death to the West", but there is a sizeable (scary size) number of Christian factions that seek the destruction of all Jews in the belief that it will usher in the Second Coming. It's Christians who go out and bomb abortion clinics. Though it's not recent history, the Crusades were the worst acts of Christian terrorism I can think of, particularly when the Western Christians sacked Constantinople, their Eastern Christian sister-city.

Religious violence is securely present in most any religion, and all of us with that violence in our history must come to terms with it.


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QUOTE (Darian @ Jan 31 2010, 01:59 PM) *
Hi folks,
I haven't logged in here for a looooonnngg time. The lava pit used to be one of my favorite places here.

I see this terrorism discussion pop up everywhere. People all over the place try to draw a line between the radicals and the moderates. There is no line. In Islam, there are two houses. The house of Islam, and the house of War. If you are a muslim, you are in the house of Islam. If you are not a muslim, you are in the house of War. Islam is forever at war with all "unbelievers".
Essentially, if a muslim cannot convert you to Islam, he is required to either subjugate you or kill you. Islam requires its followers to overcome the government of the nation in which they reside, replace it with an Islamic government and institute sharia law. What westerners call radical Islam is nothing of the sort. This so called radicalism is simply ordinary and normal Islamic behavior. It is required of its followers. It will never go away. It will not stop. If the west is not ready to stand up against Islam and force it out, terrorism is here forever.


The owner of the website at this link has spent many years researching Islam, all of its writings, and has traveled to the middle east to interview terrorist leaders. He is an expert on Islam, and if anyone in the west values freedom, this website is required reading.

Prophet of Doom

you have a rather twisted idea what it means ( for most muslims) to be muslim
they do not all hate those that do not believe as they do
i have cousins that are muslim
and they are more understanding of my religion than my christian relatives
they don't care what i believe in as long as i am happy in my faith and cause no harm to others


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