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post Feb 17 2006, 03:32 AM
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Greetings. I thoroughly enjoyed the first Myst, except I found that it left far too much up to the imagination, and the ending was pretty weak (what? I get to return to the Island? The one I spent countless hours exploring to get HERE? Wow, that's great. Don't suppose you could send me, you know, HOME? No?)

But anyway, I'm getting back into the whole thing now that they've seemingly brought the saga to a close. I've been able to fill in most of the story surrounding the first one (mostly from the Strategy guide. If you haven't read it, I highly recommend it. It's written mostly in journal form, and really fleshes things out). But I have one question I haven't seemed to be able to find an answer to: HOW did Sirrus and Achenar destroy the other ages? It's my understanding that destroying a book only destroys the link. Could two brothers really end all the life in those other ages?

Also, I really only glossed over the Uru thing because I didn't think I'd ever have time for it when it was going to be a MMO, but am I correct in understanding that they kind of did a Blair-Witch type thing to make it more immersive? Saying that the Myst games were based on archeological findings? If so, anyone have a link to whole story surrounding that?

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post Feb 17 2006, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE (WraithTDK @ Feb 17 2006, 02:32 AM)
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... HOW did Sirrus and Achenar destroy the other ages? It's my understanding that destroying a book only destroys the link. Could two brothers really end all the life in those other ages?
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Sirrus and Achenar were like any other misguided self-important emperor/god wannabe.
The Ages to which they had access were but fodder for their egos . . .
landscapes for unfettered expressions of feral impulse and rage and jealousy and greed.

As you play through successive games . . .
the detail and backstory build up likely routes they may have taken . . .
as you learn more and more . . .
of the genetic and cultural cores of privileged D'ni existence.

The three novels also flesh out the tale of the D'ni.
They -- to a certain extent -- allow your imagination to be more totally immersed . . .
in the mechanics of Atrus and family.
Through learning of his ancestors . . .
you may gather important foundations for understanding . . .
the behaviors of his descendants.


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post Feb 19 2006, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (DaDungeon @ Feb 17 2006, 07:11 AM)
QUOTE (WraithTDK @ Feb 17 2006, 02:32 AM)
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... HOW did Sirrus and Achenar destroy the other ages? It's my understanding that destroying a book only destroys the link. Could two brothers really end all the life in those other ages?
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[size=1]Sirrus and Achenar were like any other misguided self-important emperor/god wannabe.
The Ages to which they had access were but fodder for their egos . . .
landscapes for unfettered expressions of feral impulse and rage and jealousy and greed.


The thing is, it didn't look to me like the ages were victims of long, drawn out campaigns of violence. It seemed more to me like the brothers, through some means, brought about sudden cataclysims. Consider, for example, Atrus' message to Kathryn in the reflecting pool on Myst Island. He suspected it was one of his sons, but didn't seem to know exactly what happened. If the boys had been leading series of bloody campaigns in the various ages, you wouldn't think it'd be a very easy thing to hide.
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post Feb 20 2006, 07:16 AM
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It wasn't.
Even in the few worlds we "strangers" have visited.

Take Channelwood . . .
where do you think the inhabitants went?
Look around . . .
plenty of evidence of bloody campaign to extinction.

Take Serenia . . .
do you think those few pieces of machinery . . .
destroyed or vandalized for their own purposes . . .
was "it"?

Take Haven . . .
whole populations of sentient beings destroyed . . .
for sport . . .
with plenty of bloody evidence left laying around.

Take Tomahna . . .
blowing out massive chunks of people's homes . . .
doesn't set a possible example of other less-publicized behaviors?

Don't think cataclysms "did in" the fabric of Narayan's Age.

The violence doesn't have to be long drawn-out campaigns . . .
to qualify as being tyrannical or despotic.
Merely planning and executing plans to murder your parents and siblings . . .
also qualifies.

We both know Ghenghis, Idi, Napolean, Saddam, Joseph S., Mao and Tony Soprano . . .
started somewhere . . .
less vast than a library of Ages.

That message in the pool on Myst Island . . .
had not yet been removed from the pool . . .
when YOU spotted it.

Rather, it was left from the point in time . . .
when Atrus . . .
who was notoriously tunnel-visioned into his own work . . .
finally caught a glimmer of reality . .
as far as his sons behaviors over the years was concerned.

The boys WERE throwbacks to what built and then killed . . .
the Underground City.

Plain and simple to me.

I cringe . . .
thinking about the Ages . . .
to which a passing mention . .
was given.

Or the ones as yet still un-rechecked.


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post Feb 22 2006, 04:15 AM
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QUOTE (DaDungeon @ Feb 20 2006, 08:16 AM)
It wasn't.
Even in the few worlds we "strangers" have visited.

Take Channelwood . . .
where do you think the inhabitants went?
Look around . . .
plenty of evidence of bloody campaign to extinction.

Take Serenia . . .
do you think those few pieces of machinery  . . .
destroyed or vandalized for their own purposes . . .
was "it"?

Take Haven . . .
whole populations of sentient beings destroyed . . .
for sport . . .
with plenty of bloody evidence left laying around.

Take Tomahna . . .
blowing out massive chunks of people's homes . . .
doesn't set a possible example of other less-publicized behaviors?

Don't think cataclysms "did in" the fabric of Narayan's Age.

The violence doesn't have to be long drawn-out campaigns . . .
to qualify as being tyrannical or despotic.
Merely planning and executing plans to murder your parents and siblings . . .
also qualifies.

We both know Ghenghis, Idi, Napolean, Saddam, Joseph S., Mao and Tony Soprano  . . .
started somewhere . . .
less vast than a library of Ages.

That message in the pool on Myst Island . . .
had not yet been removed from the pool . . .
when YOU spotted it.

Rather, it was left from the point in time . . .
when Atrus . . .
who was notoriously tunnel-visioned into his own work . . .
finally caught a glimmer of reality . .
as far as his sons behaviors over the years was concerned.

The boys WERE throwbacks to what built and then killed  . . .
the Underground City.

Plain and simple to me.

I cringe . . .
thinking about the Ages . . .
to which a passing mention . .
was given.

Or the ones as yet still un-rechecked.

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So far, I've only had the chance to explore Myst. I'm sure the other stories (I have aquire all the games and books, and I'm in the process of going through them) fleshes everything out nicely, but I keep going back to the original, and remembering how much people talked about it being story-driven when that's all there was. And to be perfectly honest, it did not seem the ages had become ware zones to me. I've seen war zones. The Ages didn't have the destruction you see in a place rocked by war. This seemed more like a ghost-town, lie the whole place was abandoned. I remember part of the Mystery to me was where on earth everyone went.

Whatever the case, it seems strange that the two could cause enough destruction to wipe out five different civilizations under their Fathers nose with any degree of secrecy.
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post Feb 22 2006, 05:17 AM
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Just wait until you get to Achenar's room on one of the ages you will see the tools of war put to good use. Oh yes very good use.


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post Nov 16 2006, 01:27 AM
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Who says they just destroyed the books? they could have added a d'ni phrase here and there, allowing the world to be torn apart. Than destroyed the books, because than their dad would have to think the worste...


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